Want to have a baby? Ask the government, first!

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A few questions . . .

1) Are they fucking nuts?!

2) How much ya wanna bet that Wiccans, other Pagans, agnostics, Atheists, etc. will not be approved due to unsatisfactory ratings on the "values" and "family lifestyles" parts ("It's not religious discrimination, they just don't have good values!")

3) Are they fucking nuts?!

4) Can we say "e-u-g-e-n-i-c-s"?

5) How about "f-a-s-c-i-s-m"?

6) Are they fucking nuts?!

7) Is there any info about how they're making marriage a requirement for motherhood as applied to pregnancies from sexual intercourse?

8) How much ya wanna bet that they won't be accomplishing the above by dispensing birth control?

9) Are they fucking nuts?!

Actually, you can disregard questions 1,3,6,&9. I think we all know the answer.

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Posted by Kyra (not verified) on 4 October 2005 - 10:57am
I've heard lots of people,

I've heard lots of people, mostly childless, and many planning to stay that way, make comments about requiring people to get a license or pass a test before being allowed to have kids.

How is this different?

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Posted by Anthony (not verified) on 4 October 2005 - 3:15pm
State-controlled breeding means state-controlled breeding

Imagine having to ask permission from some beaurocrat who doesn't know you from Adam, just so you can have a child.

How is that any different than Nazi eugenics?

media girl's picture
Posted by media girl on 4 October 2005 - 3:45pm
Fuck these Fascists.

I'm sorry, but I've had it with these Nazis, and I won't back down from calling them what they are. I've been known to say people should need a license to have a child out of exasperation, but the idea that anyone would take it seriously is just bizarre and draconian. Single women, straight or gay, will be subject to jail and fines if they become pregnant. This violates freedom of religion, it violates privacy - hell, it just plain VIOLATES!

The nerve of anyone to think they have a right to tell me how to live my life is galling. Why do these assholes think they have the right to tell everyone else how to live?

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Posted by Morgaine Swann on 4 October 2005 - 7:57pm
Fuck these Fascists.

I'm sorry, but I've had it with these Nazis, and I won't back down from calling them what they are. I've been known to say people should need a license to have a child out of exasperation, but the idea that anyone would take it seriously is just bizarre and draconian. Single women, straight or gay, will be subject to jail and fines if they become pregnant. This violates freedom of religion, it violates privacy - hell, it just plain VIOLATES!

The nerve of anyone to think they have a right to tell me how to live my life is galling. Why do these assholes think they have the right to tell everyone else how to live?

Support the Women's Autonomy and Sexual Sovereignty Movements

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Posted by Morgaine Swann on 4 October 2005 - 7:58pm
Yeah, it sucks. I live in

Yeah, it sucks. I live in Indiana and I was VERY disappointed to read about this because it is so ridiculously invasive and discriminatory. I really really hope it never makes it past the formative stages and from what I've been hearing I don't know that it will.

Anthony: the problem is that they are saying "only married opposite-sex relationships can really be defined as 'family' and therefore are the only place where we can allow you to have kids." So stupid.

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Posted by mep (not verified) on 6 October 2005 - 9:23am
Apparently the bill has been withdrawn

Her hand got caught in the reproductive cookie jar. More at Feministe.

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Posted by media girl on 6 October 2005 - 11:36am
thank the higher power

It's been on my mind for days, I've just been too stunned to reply. I mean, how do you even comment on such a suggestion?

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Posted by gballsout on 6 October 2005 - 2:07pm
Telling a very loud no to

Telling a very loud no to the idiots who think they can control us through our children or lack there of.

I honestly had to wonder if the writers of this bill were smoking dope while shooting meth when writing this. Fictionalized creation of the law:

"dude man, listen i got a great idea. We can pass a law that will, like, stop those damn lezzies and welfare queens from having more children that'll vote democrate"

"holdup a sec lemme finish this one. I dunno, that's some strong shit. what if it gives us a bad trip?"

"Nah man, what are they gonna do?"

"Yeah your right, who would care?"

On second thought, I think they would have had to do something much stronger to do this. PCP probably.

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Posted by hoopla (not verified) on 6 October 2005 - 3:46pm
They've got a more powerful drug

Holy self-righteousness.

At least the bill was withdrawn in the face of public outrage.

media girl's picture
Posted by media girl on 6 October 2005 - 4:04pm
So where's the beef?

Lesbians can have as many children as they want. This doesn't change any of that. Take a penis, stick it in. It works pretty much every time. The child has two parents, male and female, and the birth certificate says so. Of course many (if not most) lesbians will lie and falsify the birth record. But that option is always available.

Adoption, which rejiggers parentage by replacing a real parent with a false one, always requires intense scrutiny, at least since the days of the orphan train of early in the last century, and for good reason. Many, many children were abused.

Obviously some of the morons reading this site actually believe the legislation prevents people from fucking and making babies, but I can assure you it doesn't. Put that joint down, sober up, and read carefully, assuming you have any neurons left.

But look, if you are diddling with eugenics, selectively breeding by choosing special racially and religiously correct sperm donors from some cum catalog, you better believe that the government is going to want to know what's going on.

The last thing we need is people selectively breeding themselves and others like some kind of animal stock using IVF and AI to create some master race.

So yeah,when lesbians or straights or queers, or bisexuals, or animal fetishists or mater racers or ANY kind of people start doing selective breeding, the government has some legitimate interest. All this law does is keep on top of the scientific eugenic artificial insemination human breeders to know what is going on.

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Posted by Big Bill (not verified) on 7 October 2005 - 5:20pm
That's interesting logic

So government controlled breeding is not eugenics, but people having families on their own is? My my! You might consider a career in Communist China. I hear they're big on the whole War is Peace and Slavery is Freedom thing.

Meanwhile, you should understand that even the most draconian government regulations and controls can't keep you from being gay. It's okay if you are, you know.

media girl's picture
Posted by media girl on 7 October 2005 - 8:10pm