The Democrats write their own epitaph.

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Dissent is definitely in the air, but

My take on their demise lies on this question :

When it comes to civil rights, what kind of an activist are you?

I have chosen not to answer yet because I have a longer piece on this coming, especially as to how it is reflected on the activist base. I'll start the conversation by saying : those who believe the civil rights and feminist movements were just about social mobility are the ones who got us into this mess in the first place. Why? Because it's the foundation for reactionary politics.

What real progressives are working towards is a transformational politics. It's much larger than elections or nominations. But in this country, as long as the left insists on not addressing class issues, we are going to be fucked.

It's just that simple.

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Posted by liza on 16 January 2006 - 2:09pm
yes well...

once again a pivotal nomination exposes the current state of affairs with the party... it is academic to me, I am not a Democrat anymore. It will take more than "real progressives" to work on the state of the nation... That, to me, was the message out of the DAR Constitution Hall today.

However, the much defended "Gang of 14" is not the way to go...

I found Liberal Oasis useful today, but then I rather like Bill Scher.

And Feinstein’s and Schumer’s pre-hearing threats were exposed as empty.

Granted, failure to articulate principles yesterday doesn’t preclude a party and its grassroots from articulating them today.

It just makes it harder.

You’re starting a game plan from scratch instead of executing a long-term strategy.

You’re making a complicated multi-issue case in a short timeframe, instead of over the course of months and years.

There was enough ammo from the Alito hearings, his writings, and his rulings to start what should have began months ago.

But you had to work for it.

You couldn’t sit back and expect opposition to Alito to magically be stirred. You have to stir it yourself.

Apparently, the current lot of fossilized Dem Senators have forgotten how to do that.

Since another Supreme Court battle is always around the corner, they either need to figure it out, or move aside for some new blood, for us to have any chance of stopping the bleeding that is being inflicted on the Court

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Posted by Marisacat on 16 January 2006 - 10:29pm
An historical note

"Across decades, they have walked away, abandoned, left town, turned away, did not show up. Finally, as a party they just morphed, became the lesser versions of the modern Republicans."

Not so many decades ago, George Wallace, Orval Faubus, Jim Eastland, Richard Russell, Bull Connor, and nearly all the other deadly enemies of the Freedom Movement in the South were Democrats. Those billy-clubs and mounted cops and attack dogs were ordered by Democrat governors and Democrat commissioners. Many of these folks were the elite of their state parties and power brokers in the highest levels of government and the national party committee. Established "liberal" Democrats like Franklin Roosevelt and Hubert Humphrey and Jack Kennedy depended on their favor, bent over backwards to please them, and stonewalled or went on the offensive against civil rights activists such as the delegates from the Mississippi Freedom Democratic Party who stood up to challenge the stranglehold of militant white supremacy within the Southern state parties.

How could the Democrats walk away from anything when they were never there to begin with?

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Posted by Rad Geek (not verified) on 18 January 2006 - 2:57am
Yes I know.

I am well aware of Dixiecrats and I am well aware of pro-biz, pro- war, anti-woman Democrats in all parts of the country all the way back. If we wish, wtih little trouble we can trace Iraq, the road to Iraq, bck to Scoop Jackson, it is not hard. Or Charlie Wilson, of the Crile book, Charlie Wilson's War

There has always been many parts to the party. I very carefully did not credit the party, I called them a fractured politcal partner. However without political actions made by several presidents, however reluctantly, there would have been little but the struggle and the dying.

It is not like Malcolm got a great reception inside his own race and neither did Martin. Even Martin could not fight publicly for the civil rights that Bayard Rustin needed, gay rights. Bayard would on occasion not be present for marches and meetings in some towns, not safe, not advisible, not wise.

Who sold out Blacks soon, the Democratic city machines. And Reagan was pacified in his befuddlement: ''just call them Mr Mayor''.

That does sum it up.

Sam Ervin sat on the Watergate committee but so did Barbara Jordan.

AFAIAC Sen Shelby could return to the Democrats today, they'd be delighted.

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Posted by Marisacat on 18 January 2006 - 11:15pm