As long as they are feeding at a well tended trough, the DC Dems care not at all. Careless they are, and they insist they shall be.

But... she plaintively cried, what of the ... the ... the Democratic Big Tent?

Catch this exchange on the Soapblox Chicago blog as the Dupage and Cook counties in Illinois worked at counting with their fingers and toes into the wee hours and even the next day... late word on the blogs is that Duckworth has pulled it out, with about 1000 votes.

Just get Democrats

into power first, then worry about Progressives. That will come in the future. Progressives and other Dems must work together to bring the Party back into power and everyone must loosen the reins on their ideals a little bit.

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by: CollectiveDefense @ March 22, 2006 at 00:06:17 America/Chicago

funny

I've heard that every election for over 20 years now... It's always a one sided compromise. It's like being in an abusive relationship.

Just Another Souless Atheist in Search of World Peace and Harmony

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by: Kankakee Voice @ March 22, 2006 at 00:12:24 America/Chicago

And yet for the better part

of those twenty years it doesnt seem like people have been following that mantra because Republicans have traditionally been in power over the last twenty years except in the early 90s pretty much. Banging from the outside wont accomplish you anything if you alienate yourself from the rest of the Party. They have the money, the influence, the power. If you want to hol onto your ideals then no, no Progressive will ever get into power.

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by: CollectiveDefense @ March 22, 2006 at 00:26:19 America/Chicago

Hey! No shit ''Collective Defense'', it has not been working. Get a clue.

And especially don't miss this:

Thank you

and I dont think Duckworth will even reach out to many Cegelis staffers. I dont think they will even need Cegelis' people out on the ground for them with all the backing and money from the Democratic Party.

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by: CollectiveDefense @ March 21, 2006 at 23:58:22 America/Chicago

Why would she?

When Cegelis based her entire campaign on trashing Duckworth? A scortched earth policy doesn't leave much behind.

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by: nobodysent @ March 22, 2006 at 01:13:14 America/Chicago

Would Duckworth even ask?

My worry is that having won by the skin of her teeth in the primary (if the results so far hold), Duckworth's handlers will think, "Ground game? We don't need no stikin' ground game."
Problem is, the "strategy" that may have won them the primary, hasn't got a prayer of winning against a Republican who will have more money AND significant ground troops on his side.

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by: Jim in Chicago @ March 21, 2006 at 23:59:47 America/Chicago

And at the end of the thread:

Its pretty bad when youre already thinking

about a recount. Means you dont believe Cegelis will win. Everyone was so sure Cegelis would win, but no. I said think differently. Duckworth might win, she has money and backing from D.C. Democrats, meaning Cook Co. Dems and the like. If Duckworth wins now, what will all you Pregressives do now? I suggest lending your vote to Duckworth for at least one election just to get a Democrat into power in a Republican district and change it for good. Let Cegelis run again in 2008 and see if she wins. Of course she might win it this year.

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by: CollectiveDefense @ March 22, 2006 at 00:17:29 America/Chicago

The party is making it clear as can be, clear as it has been for years... show up for the biannual or quadrennial slog in the mud, work like beavers, be insulted, then STFU and be meek til they need the left, liberal, progressives again.

And this: Dems are happy, they say Republican women will vote for her, she is a conservative Dem.

However, Cegelis who made it thru to run agaisnt Henry Hyde in 04, came closer than anyone had, she garnered 44% of the vote.

Hillary likes her Salazars, Caseys and Duckworths. Likely Duckworth swore on a Bible she would not cough up a fetus in public... LOL. Might as well laugh.

The party is pro-life. With a few stray pro-choice. And DC Dems are not interested in the base, the rank and file.

It has to end. Withhold the vote. And withhold work from the party.

Old English Folk Song:

The carrion crow sat upon an oak,
Fol de rol de rol de ray,
The carrion crow sat upon an oak,
Watching a tailor mending his cloak.
Heigh ho, the carrion crow!
Fol de rol de rol de ray.

O wife, O wife, bring hither my bow (etc.)
That I may shoot this carrion crow. (etc.)

The tailor he shot and he missed his mark,
He shot his old sow right through the heart.

O wife, O wife, bring some brandy in a spoon,
For our old sow's fallen down in a swoon.

The old sow died and the bell did toll,
And the little pigs squeaked for the old sow's soul,

O ho, said his wife, you're a silly old goose,
To kill your old sow and not care a mouse.

O ho, said the tailor, I care not a mouse,
For we shall have hog-puddings and chitterlings and souse