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1 January 2008 - 12:19pm

To "shit on" a Democrat

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You know the election primaries are close when Kos starts his strident howls:

Psst, Barack, slamming John Kerry and Al Gore is what Republicans do. Not Democrats.

Making an argument for his electability, Obama said, "I don't want to go into the next election starting off with half the country already not wanting to vote for Democrats -- we've done that in 2004, 2000," according to a person at the event (rush transcript).

Funny, that. Last time I checked, Gore won his election. And really, is Obama going to argue now that the nation was divide because of the Democrats' fault? Is that the latest right-wing talking point he wants to peddle?

Huh? Is either Gore or Kerry running now? Why shouldn't he distinguish himself from losing party bids of yore? What next? Don't speak ill of Andrew Johnson or Grover Cleveland?

The fact is that the Al Gore of 2000 was pretty pathetic. Remember, this was the pre-"Inconvenient" Al Gore. This was the Al Gore whose campaign had demonstrated public angst over whether he should wear blue jeans or Dockers. This was the Al Gore who didn't seem to know who he was. It was his election to lose, and it was close enough to lose, one way or another. Any decisive win wouldn't have let the Supreme Court's meddling happen.

And serious, John Kerry? There are many reasons why John Kerry did not win the election. One....

I think that maybe the one sounding like a Republican is Kos with his nervous nellie cries. He cites Edwards flack Joe Trippi as an authority on the subject.

Joe Trippi, a senior strategist for John Edwards, blasted Barack Obama's field program in Iowa on New Year's Eve, bluntly rebutting the Obama Campaign's attempt to promote its large crowds as a sign of momentum in the homestretch. "If the crowd numbers are that huge, and ours are this small, and they're going to kick our ass then there's no reason to explain it. Just show up and kick our ass. It's better if you don't say anything about it," said Trippi, who has overseen caucus campaigns for Howard Dean and Walter Mondale. "Anytime anybody starts throwing those kinds of things around, it's because they're in deep shit," he told The Nation.

Kos then does the two-sides-of-the-mouth thing:

Obama's recent embrace of right-wing talking points and wholesale embracing of Broderite "Unite 08" talking points suggests that he's giving up on Iowa and playing to the independent vote in New Hampshire. He has to stay close in Iowa to remain viable in New Hampshire, but I'm not sure why else he would decide to shit on Democrats at such a rapid clip these past few days.

Yeah, Democrats. Don't "shit on Democrats." Got it? Unless they're actually running, that is. Yep.

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Femtique's picture
Femtique says:

I would have to agree with you about that. Gore's campaign was not exactly all that and a bag of peaches.


(3 January 2008 - 12:25am)
Morgaine Swann's picture

Democrats shit on Democrats all the time. Just let an anti-choice DLC darling run up against a pro-choice Progressive, and watch the boys have a hissy explaining that we girls shouldn't be single issue voters. (Silly me, I get a little intense when somebody wants to bargain away my uterus for the sake of party unity.)

And no one is hesitating to shit on Kucinich, who has won every Progressive poll done recently, as well as a recent poll in West Virginia - hard-core, Red State, West freaking Virginia!

Gore and Kerry won their elections. That was never the problem. The problem is what the candidate does the next morning. Let's hope our candidate this time around has the stomach for a fight, because it's going to take one.

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(5 January 2008 - 8:50pm)
Third Rail's picture

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(21 January 2008 - 4:50am)
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moongirl says:

Slamming is what presidential candidates do the best. I feel its beneath anyone to reserve to such tactics. What is one of the reasons, if not the only reason, people vote? Change, we all want change. (There is a real good funny article on this subject www.hypocrisy.com/whichcandidatescanprovethemostchange)
Whether its the war in Iraq, health insurance, foreign policy, the fact is, we want change.


(22 January 2008 - 12:27pm)

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