16 December 2005 - 5:10pm
Pharmacist Quayle sticks by his ignorance of what emergency contraception actually is
What's perfectly clear is that Rich Quayle doesn't know what he's talking about:
"I have firm religious beliefs, and I choose not to destroy a human being. I don't think that's necessarily a bad moral stance to take."
In that simple declaration of determined ignorance, the pharmacist on indefinite unpaid leave from Walgreens in Madison County, IL, reveals that his attachment to myths and lies about emergency contraception is not likely to weaken. Don't confuse him with facts. His mind is made up.
What we're seeing are pharmacists who've gone and made fools of themselves in refusing to dispense emergency contraception on the basis that it causes abortion of pregnancy.
But wait. Emergency contraception -- also known as Plan B -- prevents conception.
If life begins at conception, and conception is prevented, then where's the abortion, Mr. Quayle?
Ah, but these are heady times for zealots and fanatics, and they don't want to admit any mistakes -- including the big mistake they made in assuming Plan B aborted pregnancy, rather than prevents pregnancy.
Quayle said he has no qualms about dispensing regular birth-control pills, but the morning-after pill, he says, "is not your typical birth control."
"If you prevent the egg from implanting in the uterus you prevent that from becoming a human being," he said. "If I give her this medication, that medication is designed to eliminate one of those lives, and that's a position I choose not to participate in."
Either he's totally wrong, or he's lying. Either way, this guy's license should be revoked -- for not knowing his business!
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Good evening, Media Girl.
By this thundering intellectual's reasoning, then, a surgeon who performs a hysterectomy on a woman of child-bearing age has entirely eliminated the possibility of an implantation of a fertilized egg.
Worse, a tubal pregnancy that a surgeon rectifies by excision of the tube and its blastocytic contents is something along the lines of murder... except that—wait!—it didn't implant in the uterus, so that one would be okay... unless a clump of several hundred cells is really an ensouled and sentient human regardless of where it ends up latching on.
The Dark Wraith should probably leave these matters to the medical/theology experts at the Fired Walgreen's Employees Support Group.
obviously, media girl has never studied human embriology. once an ovum is fertilized, that one cell zygote has all 46 chromosomes and is a human being. the sex, hair & eye color and all of it's being is directed by those chromosomes. it is a unique human being that now only requires nutrition, shelter and time to become an adult.... the size and location and degree of dependence does not make that embrio less human. look up the scientific facts in any human embriology medical text. if you don't know all the facts, you shouldn't pretend to be a real journanist.
maybe this will help if you can understand big words and care to be accurate.....http://www.physiciansforlife.ca/whendoes.html
Obviously, rich does not understand that Plan B prevents fertizilation. You know what that means, rich? No 46 chromosomes. No zygote.
I know, rich, it's hard for you to let go of your illusions. Of course, your mind is made up, so cling to your ignorance. The data is out there, if you ever want to wake up.
it's hard to do his own research, to actually go to PROFESSIONALS to find out how things really work. Better to regurgitate the lies and misinformation propagated by fundamentalist wackjobs like David Hager. Better to march down the street singing Every Sperm is Sacred with the other fools unwilling to face the messy choices in life, especially unwilling to face that OTHER PEOPLE have the right to make choices that they wouldn't make.
Superstition isn't science, poor boy.
I put some scientific facts down below in another post. You know, just in case you "understand" how to scroll down. New England Journal of Medicine is one, Biomedicine is another.
Why don't you return when you are able to enlighten us using citations from sound scientific organizations to back up your statements, and not from some damn-fool theocratic online webpage like physicians for life.
that site is laffable by the way. what a tool you must be.
I don't think he's (factually) wrong or lying....though I think he's of course a nutjob for thinking a 2 day old fertilized egg is a human being.
But emergency contraception doesn't just prevent conception. It also prevents implantation as Qualye claims it does. It is also suspected that IUDs and some other hormonal birth control methods may similarly prevent implantation in the uterine wall.
So I don't think Qualye has contradicted himself (assuming he actually believes a fertilized egg is a human life), unless perhaps he still fills prescriptions for other birth control methods that *might* work this way.
That said, I still think he's despicable.
Plan B does not prevent implantation (.pdf). That's not how Plan B works. You've bought into the myths perpetrated by the people who want women who have sex to be punished. You know, the live begins at ejaculation folks.
That's in the GAO report on the FDA's political obstruction of Plan B's approval.
Some wingnuts are waking up:
But people like Mr. Quayle and our emmissary of ignorance rich, above, cling to their ideology -- which is the danger of these people. Facts and truth mean nothing to them. Their opinion is more important.
Activist Grad Gal says:
It (Plan B) also prevents implantation as Qualye claims it does.
Got proof with that? If you have some would you please provide a link to a citation? You sound so sure of yourself.
The New England Journal of Medicine. :::pay site::::
Note: In the above reference "estrogen/-progestin regimen" references a group of differently compounded drugs, of which Plan B is one, that share a common mechanism. Plan B itself contains no estrogen. It contains Levonorgestrel which is a progestin, defined as a group of steroidal hormones.
Here's another citation:
Biomedicine: Emergency Contraception's Mode of Action Clarified
So you're wrong. I'll not "go there" on the IUD statement you make. I'll leave that takedown to someone else. After all, why should I have all the fun?