...because man's raping nature is a given

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Drugs and Alchohol

I agree with ALL of the points being made save for this one:

30% believe a woman is totally or partially responsible for being raped if she gets drunk.

If a person gets drunk or otherwise becomes self-intoxicated, the person "technically" and technically might not be considered responsible, but the person is responsible for incapacitating him or herself. So, while no one ever deserves to be raped or otherwise molested, there is no removal of culpability because one conveniently chemically self-impares judgment. Of course, if someone is slipped a Roofie, then they are only Karmically responsible for having made poor choices as to their company and environment.

Here is a direct analog: If a person gets drunk and drives a car into another person causing his death, being drunk does not mitigate his guilt. More to the point, he is probably MORE guilty because he created the situation, which likely would not have occurred had he remained sober.

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Posted by MG (not verified) on 22 November 2005 - 8:32am
Your analogy makes no sense

Drunk driving is a crime. Being raped while drunk is being a crime victim. Not at all the same thing. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Does a woman give up her right to not be raped if she gets drunk?

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Posted by media girl on 22 November 2005 - 10:00am
Does a woman give up her rights...if she gets drunk?

Emphatically, NO. However, the discussion here was on the lines of "responsibility" not "legality." To reiterate: self-administering intoxicants to the point of impairment is the responsibility of the person doing the self-administration. While she does not deserve to be raped under amy circumstances—and I can even go along with the point that she is not responsible for being raped—, she is still complicit in placing herself in the position. It doesn't excuse the action of the rapist who should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law; neither does it excuse her actions.

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Posted by MG (not verified) on 22 November 2005 - 8:10pm
Gender perceptions

I scanned the scenario responses and found it interesting that there didn't seem to be any differences between men's and women's attitudes on whether the woman was partially or totally responsible for the rape if she was drunk, wearing revealing/sexy clothes, etc.

Do you know of any equivalent studies in the United States? I heard somewhere that at trial, women jurors tend to be more judgmental of rape victims and sexual-harassment plaintiffs than men do, and I would be interested in seeing if there's any truth to that.

--|PW|--

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Posted by pennywit on 22 November 2005 - 7:31pm
"Of course, if someone is

"Of course, if someone is slipped a Roofie, then they are only Karmically responsible for having made poor choices as to their company and environment."

Maybe it's b/c I haven't finished my coffee, but this sentence isn't making any sensible sense. A woman is *Karmically* responsible for her attack b/c a predator used a drug to intentionally disable her in order to rape her? And this is b/c she knowingly hung out in the company of a rapist or a rapists' bar?!! Do you think somehow any woman would know that someone near her in a bar is a rapist and she's just playing the odds for fun? And now she's being paid back for being so cruel by having been raped?

Erm, WTF??!!

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Posted by gballsout on 26 November 2005 - 10:56am