When the straw man misses the reality bus


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Just a minor thought on the

Just a minor thought on the largest voting bloc "the non-voter" I don't think they are waiting, I think they are unwilling, and in most cases too lazy to vote. I figure that a little tax magic to allow a 500 dollar tax credit for persons over 18 who participated in atleast 1 election would be a good remedy.

I don't think you can wait for a progressive voice to rise up, because the system they have to rise through is corrupting. Even the great progressives like Nadar have become sellouts, allowing himself to be used a Republican tool to get his name in the news some more. I think it will take an internet organized "perculate up" stratagy rather than a voodoo politics "trickle-down" stratagy of waiting for the progressive messiah. Progressives have to rise as an organized force, and covertly take over an established organization, say the democratic party, and make themselves the opposite of their enemies, the religious right. They have to be ready to rank and file counter the whole church voting bloc power that the fundies bring to the political circus.

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Posted by Hoopla (not verified) on 6 October 2005 - 3:36pm
I don't think Nader is progressive at all

But I agree, we can't just wait. We the People must insist on voices who speak for us.

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Posted by media girl on 6 October 2005 - 4:02pm
Nadar was once good.

Taking on corperations and consumer protections. Now he seems to want a cult of Nadar.

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Posted by hoopla (not verified) on 6 October 2005 - 8:06pm
And that is the problem right there...
We have yet to hear strong progressive and liberal voices speak out in the public square in front of the cameras of the mainstream media. We have yet to see the mainstream media pay them any mind. While the anti-war movement is progressing in civil protest, progressivism remains largely unheard, a faith in a better future with effective government as a tool for positive change held by many of us in the blogosphere, a minority caucus within the Democratic Party, and in the majority of hearts and minds of mainstream Americans.

There is little point in debating whether a liberal or progressive can get elected. The better question to ask is how to create the cultural conditions for such a candidate to get elected. The reactionary right in the U.S. figured this out in the U.S. in the late 60's and early 70's and (after shamelessly stealing the idea from Italian socialist thinker Antonio Gramsci) embarked on a war of ideology such to shift the culture so that they could simply move the political center to where it favored them. This is the whole point of the Mighty Wurlitzer and precisely why we, the liberals, progressives and radicals need precisely to organize our own mechanism to fight this war of ideology through all levels of media and thought. Thus we may just be able to push the center back towards our side and then, by definition a liberal or progressive candidate will be electable.

*gets off soapbox*

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Posted by Lorenzo (not verified) on 7 October 2005 - 12:07am