19 October 2005 - 10:37pm
Is Condi Rice suddenly in the right place to replace Cheney for Vice President?
It was a mere rumor but yesterday. But now there's a lot more buzz that Cheney is in trouble. Chris Matthews says there are problems for Dick Cheney. (Crooks & Liars has video.) The Left Coaster offers these questions:
Even the Democrats are now asking what did Bush know, and when did he lie about it?
Even Tweety said this morning that this is evolving into a serious problem for Cheney, although Matthews spins this travesty as something Bush is detached from, and as a wholly-owned Cheney operation. Does anyone believe that?
If Cheney goes, who steps in?
Although the President and Vice President are the only
two elected positions voted on by all Americans to
hold office, George Bush will get to appoint a
replacement for Dick Cheney if the latter is forced to
resign. That "nomination" will have to be confirmed by
Congress. See below). I guess the Founding Fathers
didn't think of everything. They never in their
wildest dreams could have foreseen the coming of two
Republican scoundrels. One Richard M. Nixon, the other
George W. Bush.
Could the great political irony of the day be that Condoleezza Rice seems like a very possible choice to step in?
On the NewsHour tonight, we had persistent critic of Bush's foreign policy, Zbigniew Brzezinski, actually saying he liked what he was hearing from Condi in her testimony before the Foreign Relations Committee today:
First of all, I like the fact that the secretary of state in effect outlined a general approach and thereby demonstrated that the Department of State is now defining our policy towards Iraq -- that it isn't being done surreptitiously in the Defense Department or by speech writers in the White House. And that's a good step forward.
He goes on to analyze American policy in Iraq, and while it's still a mess, you get a definite sense that Condi's perhaps bringing some reality and structure to what, until now, has been a military boondoggle run by neo-con ideologues and defined by Republican spin hacks.
Maybe she has the foreign policy chops after all? That would eliminate the first strike old-line patriarchs will attempt to throw at any woman aspiring to the Oval Office.
Mix into this the fact that non-politician Condi is polling well against Democratic pre-run frontrunner Hillary Clinton and you have some fairly appealing political calculus -- especially when you factor in what NewsMax noticed:
In another stunning development, the Fox poll shows Rice picking up more Democratic support than Hillary gets from Republicans. Ten percent of Democrats say they'd back Rice for president. Just eight percent of Republicans would support Hillary.
Somehow I can't see Hillary winning any GOP hearts. But Condi continues to surprise.
I'm not saying I'd vote for her, or like to see her run. Her role in the various outrages of during her tenure during the first four years, and how she avoided discussing anything of substance in her Secretary of State confirmation hearings, have left a vile aftertaste in my mouth. Z-big's critique of Iraq 2.0 under Condi's vision also doesn't leave one all warm and fuzzy. And who knows what she thinks about anything in domestic policy?
But there's no question that the Republicans could turn this Plame fiasco into a victory by placing the right person -- someone who's not a Gerald Ford -- into the VP slot, and who can run for president in '08 from the White House.
Though Rice's numbers are astonishing, the Fox poll found that Rudy Giuliani has a far better chance of defeating Hillary. He leads the former first lady by double digits - 50 to 39 percent.
He also tops the survey in the leadership category, with 65 percent saying he's "strong and decisive."Sen. John McCain also trounces Hillary, 49 to 38 percent, with 56 percent saying he's "strong and decisive."
The problem with Rudy is his rather messy personal life, with rumors of escapades that would perhaps scandalize many folks in "middle America." (You think NY Daily News has the scoops now? Wait until the Giuliani campaign kicks off.)
And McCain? What is he? Like 80 years old? (And anti-choice. No thanks!)
No, Condi seems well positioned. Add in the ever-ubiquitous Bush-crony factor, and you have a virtual shoe-in. She's said she won't run. But getting "Forded in" is another matter entirely.
I suppose the question then is: Will Dick give Condi a chance?
And the bonus question: What would (could) the Democrats do about it?
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Comments
Well Rice as vice president seems like an improvement I am scared of it. Two words: Peter Principal. It brought you people like George W. Bush. All having Rice as VP would do would give Bush an even higher yes-woman. Cheney is his own darklord. I never lumped cheney in with the Neo-Con true believers. I always put down his Iraq lust as greed. My gut tells me that Cheney's fear of lossing his Iraq investment has kept the bombs from falling on Iran. My verdic is that while Darth Cheney must go, Rice would just be a Bush magnifier, so no there too.
My guess is that if Bush skips Hasert (please!!) He will go with Ted stevens from Alaska. In any case, I expect if Cheney falls (very big F-ing if!!!) The republican establishment will come out of Bush-fear mode and start having nightly talks, pointing out that Bush's legacy might be killing the Republican party unless he lets someone compitent (them) take over. Look for who ever is tapped to be the VP as the establishment's pick for the next Repub President.
And I don't Think Hillary will get the nod. She just doesn't sitwell with too many Democrates I know. I am hoping that General Clarke gets the nod.
She may be appointed as VP, and She may run for President but never win, the African American community does not trust her and the Repubs have to many racist to elect her.
Her first impression is mostly vague and unknown, except for those of us paying attention to the shenanigans in DC. I have the sense that anything could happen 3 years from now.
Maybe I should have written this in the blog, but I think what's interesting about this scenario is not so much the political horserace math, but the fact that if she won she would change the political landscape forever, not for what she does but by who she is. Suddenly racial minorities and women are worth considering. And in a country where over 200+ years all but one president have been white protestants, I think that in and of itself would be a good thing.
OTOH, "President Rice" sounds a bit scary, too.
Putting here in power to change the political landscape sounds sorta like letting the Repubs ban abortion to bring about a true progressive movenment to me. Sounds like a fancy idea on on a think tank opinion paper, but think about how many people would be hurt on the ground level.
...and I can see how this is like cold-blooded "liberals" who say overturning Roe would be good for the Democrats. I'm not advocating Rice for the position at all. And I doubt the Republicans would be too happy without some good ol' boy racist misogynist greed monkey who could appeal to their better natures.
What I find really sad is that there are precious few politicians at all that I'd back for president with enthusiasm. Too bad life isn't more like The West Wing.
Condi is untouchable.
Any attempt to bring her down will be spun as either racist, or anti-feminist, or both. The conservatives are wise to have made this woman a part of this administration.
With all their message management and the willing microphones poked in their face, should this occur, Condi will sail into VP office, never having atoned for her sins of incompetence.
Mess up and move on up the ranks. At least that's how it works for BushCo.