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7 June 2005 - 11:03am

DailyKos exodus

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One of the most eloquent diarists on DailyKos of late, Lorraine, has announced her departure from that illustrious community:

[T]he response from Kos to the pie ad has caused me to opt out of the DailyKos community. As someone who writes primarily about the connection between the personal and the political, I have no choice but to be a feminist. I care about gender issues, sexuality issues, surveillance issues, sex education issues, marriage issues, etc., etc., etc. And what bothers me more than anything about the tone of the debate is that CERTAIN (not all) heterosexual males don't seem to get that what they deem women's issues or gay issues are one step away from being their issues. Anyone rememeber Neimoller's famous quotation?

I have also been called a whore for writing about sexual issues as explicitly as I do, so I can hardly be considered a sexless harridan. I love certain men. I want to live in a world where no one has to contest their rights as human beings because of gender or sexuality.

I know that some people don't understand why some of us are so fucking angry at Kos right now that we can't see straight.

It's not about the fucking ad. It's about the fact that those of us who think that there will be no politics to fight about if we don't protect the right to privacy have been told repeatedly that our issues don't matter. That we should be patient, get in line, wait our turn.

HOW MANY MORE YEARS ARE WE SUPPOSED TO WAIT?

Indeed.

Waiting no longer, comments to Lorraine's declaration are abuzz about an apparent exodus of many women, and men, too, from Daily Kos. There are some very insightful comments there, well worth reading.

Meanwhile, before I even posted my own belated post on the Kos conflagration, Women Kossacks was set up as a quickie Blogger site -- where talk of a new community is already well underway. I'll post any major developments here.

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lorraine says:

I'm flattered by the praise. Humbled.

Still pissed at Kos, of course, and wondering where this mass exodus/revolution is headed to. I'm SO GLAD you're bringing this to greater attention. Thank you, Media Girl!


(7 June 2005 - 11:50am)
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There comes a point where you have to just turn off your sewing machine.


(7 June 2005 - 12:17pm)
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pennywit says:

I'm on the cusp of writing about this issue (and from a POV that supports Kos), but I could use a little guidance. I have a tough time believing that stalwart members of the Kos Kommunity are leaving because of a single post about a commercial. Is there more to this issue? Can you guys point me to something else that he's written or done to merit such a reaction?

--|PW|--


(7 June 2005 - 5:23pm)
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It's about the wholesale dismissal of women's equality as a serious issue. It's about how revealing his post and his comments in that thread were as to his attitudes in this area. It's about the many posts in agreement. It's about the cold shoulder or outright hostility towards women's issues on that site over the past several months.

Lorraine says it better.


(7 June 2005 - 5:50pm)
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MyPOV says:

When one constantly has to argue for the "don't go down the slippery slope of abortion" it gets tiring. The "pie" ad was inconsequential but it really brought out all the oppositional opinions and confirmed that women's rights are subserviant to "the great liberal blogger's agenda."


(8 June 2005 - 10:30pm)

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