6 March 2005 - 10:50pm
Trolls and last words
This may seem like a boring, procedural post, but stay with me. There's a punch line....
Anyone who has been reading this site for the past couple of days knows that we've been infested with a troll. At first I felt it was best to give the benefit of the doubt, believing that it's better to engage someone in thoughtful conversation than to just shut him out.
However, it soon became clear that he was not going to comport himself with any of the common blogosphere values of courtesy and respect. On the contrary, he seemed to be getting off on making wild and provocative accusations designed to provoke anger and irritation, rather than to inspire any sort of dialectic, no matter how spirited. I decided to attempt to intervene.
After being politely warned twice in comments, he persisted in is abusive and bullying rhetoric. Finally, he was asked by me via PM to leave. Of course, he had something to say about that, too. (Don't they always?)
The punchline? His last post (deleted, but preserved here for your amusement):
So media girl decided to ban me but was too dishonest, cowardly and "feminist" to tell anyone. Becuase she likes to pretend she is things she is not.
Too cowardly also to answer the challenge I put to her -- to comment on the discrimination against male domestic violence victims. This is a situation that is the opposite of what she claims to stand for. But she's just another lying feminist....
Instead of discourse her only thought is to use force to "kill off" anyone who disagrees with her. She likes to live in a bubble and lie even to her friends. Just like Bush really.
Can't say I'm surprised.
That is all.
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Comments
Oh god another men's rights 'activist'. Fucking a. They have to be the most whining, insepid lot that ever walked this earth.
Why don't you open up your own DV shelters, you lazy git, instead of trying to close DV shelters for women that are already under-funded? But that would make sense. You don't actually want to do any work, all you want to do is get a hard-on with your friends over your hatred of women.
He is a whinging troll. He goes around the net and picks fights. That's pretty much all he does.
He's got a real bug up his a$$ about feminism and women; he's obsessed. He goes around the net, sniffing the butt of every feminist he can find. He's gone on Wikipedia to assert that RAWA is lying about the Taliban and that women in Afghanistan are all being educated, etc. Their big crime in one post on a blog was being both feminist and communist--also, for not pointing out the abuses of men (which they have, they condemned the killings of Taliban soliders by the Northern Alliance on their site, but hey, who needs the facts?)
He trolls the internet looking to start fights, gets to be the center of attention for awhile, and then snivels when he's called on his behavior. It's quite the pattern with him.
And yes, headphoneson, one does wonder why these guys don't try to form their own shelters. But of course that's not the point. The point isn't to make things better for men--these reactionaries see feminism as a zero-sum game. In their minds, the only way to make things "better" for men is to make them worse for women. They expect women to make things better for men, but won't explain why they have been so absent from the fight for women's equality--except to say that oh, women don't have any problems. In other word, shut up bitch and make me the center of your world.
I didn't know what a "troll" was until this one clubbed the back of my head and tried to drag me under his bridge! Incidentally, I gave him a piece of my mind on DKos too and now I can't find it. Do you suppose I was erased?
or so I've encountered. As soon as he called me a name, I stopped answering him. MG likes to keep it civil around here, and I like that. Some sites want you to fight it out, but that's draining. His whole point was to be reactive. He used profane terms for shock value without even knowing what they meant. He couldn't reason his way out of a paper bag.
I hate to say it, but I am automatically suspicious of guys who post on feminist blogs. I give them a chance to show me who they are, but if I smell troll, I have NO patience. Going into a site with the intent to disrupt is a form of violation. I'd like to do a survey sometime about how many women writers have had to deal with something like this. It can get pretty unpleasant.
Morgaine-ism© #8
"A Woman's Sexual and Reproductive Autonomy is Sacred and Absolute."
The other men who've engaged in discussion here have been at worst courteous and respectful in discussion, even when in disagreement. It's because of men like them that I do not get all gloomy about the patriarchy.
What I think is telling is how fearful our little troll was -- almost to the point of hysteria. He's a low man in the pecking order, I suspect, so he lashes out at women. Thusly he proves his manhood.
Ah, just my paranoia kicking in; it was on bump, not dkos! This internet stuff is harder than it looks.
"Never mind." Emily Latella