"Babies are born bad"

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What they are really saying is...

"I am born bad - so bad that I have to be saved or I'm going to Hell. I have to be told what to do, and I have to make you do it, too, or I'll never be good enough."

It's sad, really, but we are paying for their self-loathing. Remember that these people lack the faculty for abstract thinking. They only know what they can touch, and they can't conceive of the idea that someone else has different thoughts or feelings. They have no understanding of the relative nature of sytems of morality. They think a baby is the punishment for having sex outside of marriage. They think being poor means you are undisciplined and lazy. They believe there's not enough of anything to go around, so they have to get theirs before you.

Yes, the world deserves better. It distresses me that we have the capability to improve the lives of everyone on the planet and we aren't doing it. It bothers me that they are abusing Jesus' name to justify political and social actions that would horrify him. It bothers me that people can't consider, even for a moment, that their beliefs might just be wrong.

Now the question is, what do we do about it. I believe the first step for us on the net is to organize, and create a cohesive movement against the Dominant Death Cult.

Right now, we are functioning as separate interests. Feminists and liberal men need to band together; Atheists, Pagans, and actual Christians of all types need to get together with Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and others because we ALL want to be free to live as we choose; Blacks need to work with Feminists and Gays and Hispanics. Instead of being a buch of little groups, we need to get over our divisions in the interest of the overarching causes of Freedom and Justice for ALL. We'll never get it individually. Solidarity is the key. If one of us is not free, then none of us is free.

Morgaine-ism© #8

"A Woman's Sexual and Reproductive Autonomy is Sacred and Absolute."

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Posted by Morgaine Swann on 27 March 2005 - 1:32pm
What we're up against
Feminists and liberal men need to band together; Atheists, Pagans, and actual Christians of all types need to get together with Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and others because we ALL want to be free to live as we choose; Blacks need to work with Feminists and Gays and Hispanics. Instead of being a buch of little groups, we need to get over our divisions in the interest of the overarching causes of Freedom and Justice for ALL.

The mainstream media, the politocracy, the corporatocracy all don't want this to happen. They want us all to be fighting each other. For the MSM, it means easy entertainment programming. For the politocracy, it means the party establishments remain in power. For the corporatocracy, it means we're not paying attention to how they're raping the country, its resources and its people.

I think the conservatives think that they can control this three-headed beast. I feel that this unholy alliance threatens to run this country right into the dustbin of history.

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Posted by media girl on 27 March 2005 - 3:24pm
I agree

With your assessment of the danger. I also feel as if we need to give up hope that the Democrats will do anything to help us. They're owned by the same corporate interests as the Republicans and they've shown very little willingness to oppose the Religious Reich even when they are so clearly out of bounds.

I have no doubt that the underclasses have to organize - I'm just not sure how to do it.

But I'm working on it.

Morgaine-ism© #8

"A Woman's Sexual and Reproductive Autonomy is Sacred and Absolute."

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Posted by Morgaine Swann on 27 March 2005 - 4:02pm
solidarity

Thanks to Morgaine and praise to the Goddess for this proclamation; "We must band together:" to resist evil, to join in creating good: to join together.

I have long felt that we have allowed our enemies to divide us so they may rule us; "divide and rule" destroyed the workers, the Indians, Africans & African-Americans, women, "Orientals", and anybody who didn't see things "the right way". But there's tension in celebrating the richness of our differences and in standing together; we may have played this down too much. An Appalachian coal miner may find it hard to overcome his religious teaching when confronted by the absoluteness of a woman's sexual autonmy. I think of the struggles we actual Christians are facing in accepting GLBT members fully (not just "sit in the pew, give money, and stay away from any kids but your own." Group studies crossing ideological and social bases show the key is getting acquianted as human beings, as fellow creatures. Then it becomes "Fuck the theology. Fuck the power. We know them; we know their struggles, their good humor, their willingness to pitch in: they are one of us, and you'd better respect that."

I chose my examples in part to illustrate just how difficult this can be. Can we be patient with my made-up miner, while we stand with him against the company? Yeah, we must tell him, "Brother, we aint compromising on this; we gotta do it." when speaking of women's sacred right to be themselves. Then what?

My bishops, whom I care for deeply and respect, all participated in the consecration of an openly gay priest as the bishop of New Hampshire. This has thrown the entire communion into a crisis; many bishops & primates, especially in Africa where we are growing most rapidly, hate this. They sincerely believe it is a surrender to evil. Thus the Anglican Communion has asked U S bishops to voluntarily refrain from participating for a few years. There was no such request made to the Archbishop of Uganda who, not being satisfied with his victory, called in a press release for an immediate and total reversal of the U S church.

There's a side of me that wants to say "Fuck the evil bastards!"

and let them go. But what of the other African Archbishops, who are struggling to bring us together? What of the very real concerns of the Ugandan Archbishop who deals with Christian/ Muslim ethnic violence, with hundreds of casualties, or the indifference of the rich U S/ Europeans, who profit from third world debt and the international structures that create and maintain it? What of his people who say " we are accused of being morally lax because we do not condemn homosexuals. or other

free practices?" What of the agony of watching babies die before or just after Baptism, from AIDS, Malaria, or other disease, as the inadequate response swings, oh so slowly, into effect? It's not so easy to say "Fuck the Archbishop" or another; it is very hard to find a way not to say it when he is \

essentially saying it to us, but this is what solidarity requires. I know you as another child of God, and I support you with my whole heart in your struggles, which are not mine, BUT THIS REQUIRES THE SAME FROM YOU. I have struggles, which you can not share, but you must accept them as just. Easy on you helping me with mine, but not so on the other side, hey?

This is longer than I intended already; we are a struggle, and a celebration, in progress. Let us keep each other on track, and care for each other; it's hard work, but well worth it.

Love, caring, and peace to all

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Posted by blue rebel on 27 March 2005 - 8:46pm
There's the ruling class

and then there are the ruled. There are the radical conservative leaders who play to people's fears, and then there are the people who are targeted to receive that rhetoric.

I don't really care about the Archbishops of the Holy Roman Empire. I do care about they people they try to control and sway. The Church will or won't find a heart of compassion. But as long as they see the womb and not the woman, I will consider them sadly lost and dangerously misguided.

Diversity is our strength. They use it against us because it threatens them. You are absolutely right, in my book.

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Posted by media girl on 27 March 2005 - 11:58pm