Guckert fiasco -- a nickel plated Greek Tragedy

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Unconcious outing

I do think Gannon outed himself on some level. But I think you have to add to the mix the reality that anything that happens regarding the Bush White House is okay. If we learned that a cabinet member was an ax murderer, the media would sweep right by the issue and liberals would be attacked for "criticizing" ax murdering.

I am ready for every right-wing gay and bisexual official to be outed. I don't give a damn about their internalized homophobia, but what they do to thousands of others is obscene.

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Posted by Diane (not verified) on 23 February 2005 - 10:48am
The Crime of Hubris - Gay and almost proud?

I would be hard pressed to attack a GOP person for being gay. Some time ago I decided that a person's sexual orientation is none of my business unless I am contemplating having a sexual relationship with that person. If I am okay with a person being gay, then his/her political beliefs are not relevant and vice versa.

I think where both you and I, Diane, might be coming from, is the idea of the hypocrisy of it all - that one party, at least via lip service, defends homosexual rights - while another attacks - yet both have gay voters/supporters and even gay leaders.

My point about how powerful this "gay cell" is: They can get their shill into the White House press room. They can get him a press pass. They can sidestep background checks. The man can be running a "business," if you want to call it that, that would be a major embarrassment to the President and those who surround him. The Teflon-factor of the Reagan era still wears well, it would seem.

That they would think that the history of this odd duck would not touch them means that they have complete Hubris, or that they are very high up and very powerful and believe they can withstand exposure, suppress opposition, or believe they are untouchable.

If someone were to field "softball" questions, as Bill Maher call them, why choose [i]this[/i] guy? Or are there others who are already on the payroll, only this is the first we've permitted ourselves to finally notice? And I am haunted about the question I saw on Bill Maher. Guckert asked about people who live in "unreality."

Hmm.

Matsu's picture
Posted by Matsu on 23 February 2005 - 11:25am
Sidetracked

Naturally the MSM got sidetracked on the sex. Don't they all just love sex stories?

But the real concern is not GOP hypocrisy about homosexuality but how someone in the White House got an apparently active prostitute past FBI and Secret Service screening to work under a phony name. It doesn't wash.

It especially doesn't wash when he seems to be connected to the exposure of CIA operative Valerie Plame:

[Focusing on the homosexuality of Guckert] was very clever spin [by White House staffers]. This aspect of the story is not about Guckert's private life; it is about his paid, publicly advertised professional life.  I have yet to see any published information on Guckert's actual private life. In media interviews, Guckert has not denied, but he has refused to discuss his true profession. Over the past two weeks, the mainstream media has picked up on the story in fits and starts, but it has mostly been the bloggers who have unearthed new details on an almost daily basis. Guckert resigned from Talon News on February 9th, and all of his stories were purged from its web site -- but Guckert's male escort web sites are now apparently hot properties -- and are up for sale.

Among the many scandalous aspects of L'Affaire Gannon, Guckert and Talon News also figure into the investigation of the Bush administration's leak of the name of undercover CIA agent Valerie Plame, wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson.  Wilson had angered the administration when he revealed in an op-ed in The New York Times, that when the Bush administration sent him to Niger to investigate whether Iraq had sought to purchase uranium, he found no evidence that it had. This finding undercut the Administration's claim that that Iraq had done so, as president Bush had claimed in a speech to Congress justifying the war. As it turned out, the only evidence the president had was a fake memo of uncertain provenance.

Gannon interviewed Ambassador Wilson, and published this question:  "An internal government memo prepared by U.S. intelligence personnel details a meeting in early 2002 where your wife, a member of the agency for clandestine service working on Iraqi weapons issues, suggested that you could be sent to investigate the reports. Do you dispute that?"   Well, CIA officials say that Plame had not been at the meeting, but the question now being publicly aired, is how did non-reporter Guckert get access to a classified memo?   Speculation is rife that Guckert and Talon News were and are part of a wide-ranging White House propaganda effort that has included the smearing of Wilson and the outing of Plame.

This is from this good summary of the depth and breadth of the scandal so far.

media girl's picture
Posted by media girl on 23 February 2005 - 12:06pm
Not a true Greek tragedy

I've briefly worked in the White House press room, pre-911, and even then everyone had to go through a thorough background check; I assume that it's gotten more so now.

The issue is not whether Gannon/Guckert is a homosexual, but how this alleged male prostitute got his press passes? I'd also like to know his press pass name, because it's impossible (through the regular channels) to get one using a nickname or a made-up name.

Secondly, I'm very curious about how Mr. Guckert got inside information, even before the other media got hold of it. For example, he was first to announce the "shock and awe" bombings. The Plame case is another one. How come?

Which leads us to ask a reasonable question: did he have a "special" relationship with anyone in the White House? And, I don't mean anyone like the chef or the cleaning lady... (wink, wink) This is a very legitimate point to explore, and, if it happens to involve sex the juicier it is.

Finally, a true Greek tragedy is also a moral lesson, that a person achieves some kind of understanding, a higher moral ground though katharsis.... I don't think it's the case here! So, please leave my Greeks alone.

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Posted by Andros (not verified) on 23 February 2005 - 12:34pm
GayGate

It's why I called it "nickel plated" Greek tragedy.

And, [i]yes,[/i] to your point, he would have to be connected well up the food chain to get this access and the trail point "military" at almost every turn, or "intelligence," or someone near the top.

"Gate" has been used as a word and in "GayGate" the smoking gun is that he got into that press room.

What gives?

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Posted by Matsu on 23 February 2005 - 12:59pm